coolstonesa
05-03 07:04 PM
Compare this stupid, never ending GC process with the Canadian one. Back in 1996, I got my Canadian residency in 5 months when I applied from India. Within 3 yrs i.e. by 1999, I got my Canadian citizenship. I know Canadian GC process takes more time now but it is quite straigtht forward and you can self sponsor.
I had applied for labor in 2002, got approved in 2003 but couldn't file 140 as the employer went out of business. Reapplied through new employer in 2003 and am stuck in PBEC ever since. The time span/ requirements to get card in hand is so long/complex that many things can go wrong on the way...e.g. layoff/ employer bankrupt etc. etc.
I wish someone can understand our sufferings/ pain.
I agree with MChundi here. I have been in this process since 2002 and have worked closely with my lawyers but it never ceases to amaze me how much complexity is built into the GC system. Putting the ads, applying for labor, aplying for I-140 answering any throwbacks from DOL/UCSIS. TO add to that the goof ups by the immigration lawyers and their para-legals certainly confuses the hell out of u.
Most ppl who apply for GCs are unaware about retrogression and PBEC problems at the onset. Even if they are aware u think, "well, my labour will take abt a year or so so by then hopefully things will become current". I mean not a lot of us, have the time or the foresight to plan THAT much in advance.
Now if we as H1s dont know the deal here, H4's CERTAINLY dont know the deal and it takes them a LOT more time to grasp the reality of things coz they have to absorb many other things like learning how to drive here, learning how the credit system works here etc etc etc.
All that being said, i would ask the H4's to try and avoid pointing blame at the IV members. This is not an easy process for sure. We are in NO position to demand anything from the US Govt. Whatever progress we have made is also quite phenomenal. I Still cant believe we collected even $100,000+ !! Right now the best strategy is to solve the primary applicant's problems and try and get the dependents problems go away along with that.
I had applied for labor in 2002, got approved in 2003 but couldn't file 140 as the employer went out of business. Reapplied through new employer in 2003 and am stuck in PBEC ever since. The time span/ requirements to get card in hand is so long/complex that many things can go wrong on the way...e.g. layoff/ employer bankrupt etc. etc.
I wish someone can understand our sufferings/ pain.
I agree with MChundi here. I have been in this process since 2002 and have worked closely with my lawyers but it never ceases to amaze me how much complexity is built into the GC system. Putting the ads, applying for labor, aplying for I-140 answering any throwbacks from DOL/UCSIS. TO add to that the goof ups by the immigration lawyers and their para-legals certainly confuses the hell out of u.
Most ppl who apply for GCs are unaware about retrogression and PBEC problems at the onset. Even if they are aware u think, "well, my labour will take abt a year or so so by then hopefully things will become current". I mean not a lot of us, have the time or the foresight to plan THAT much in advance.
Now if we as H1s dont know the deal here, H4's CERTAINLY dont know the deal and it takes them a LOT more time to grasp the reality of things coz they have to absorb many other things like learning how to drive here, learning how the credit system works here etc etc etc.
All that being said, i would ask the H4's to try and avoid pointing blame at the IV members. This is not an easy process for sure. We are in NO position to demand anything from the US Govt. Whatever progress we have made is also quite phenomenal. I Still cant believe we collected even $100,000+ !! Right now the best strategy is to solve the primary applicant's problems and try and get the dependents problems go away along with that.
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Macaca
12-11 09:36 PM
I have mentioned IV to a some Indians. They have no interest. Some of them are not bothered about retrogression. They exepect the GC to fall in their lap while they are sipping tea and eating samosa.
Also, it is hard to trust a mainly Indian set up. The Indian contracting companies have set a very shameless level. I told my friends that IV appears different but it is hard to change your opinion when you see something else 10 times a day.
I apolozie to the sensitive Indians if I this is breaking news. But this is the general feeling and a reason for hate in the blogs: where there is smoke there is fire. It is embarassing.
For the life of me, I couldn't figure this out either.
I also don't understand why most of EB applicants are so oblivious to the EB-based immigration situation.
I am from ROW, and I could only shake my head in disbelief when one of my Indian friends asked me innocently if the 'situation' was 'really that bad'?
If there really are 600K EB applicants, and all we can get is 6K members, then perhaps we deserve the crappy situation we find ourselves in today.
Also, it is hard to trust a mainly Indian set up. The Indian contracting companies have set a very shameless level. I told my friends that IV appears different but it is hard to change your opinion when you see something else 10 times a day.
I apolozie to the sensitive Indians if I this is breaking news. But this is the general feeling and a reason for hate in the blogs: where there is smoke there is fire. It is embarassing.
For the life of me, I couldn't figure this out either.
I also don't understand why most of EB applicants are so oblivious to the EB-based immigration situation.
I am from ROW, and I could only shake my head in disbelief when one of my Indian friends asked me innocently if the 'situation' was 'really that bad'?
If there really are 600K EB applicants, and all we can get is 6K members, then perhaps we deserve the crappy situation we find ourselves in today.
vinabath
04-25 10:54 AM
good luck with your effort. I hope it resolves smoothly. I think the employer will budge once he sees the notice from the attorney.
sometimes the employer needs to be pushed too.
sometimes the employer needs to be pushed too.
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ub27
07-24 08:56 AM
Paper filed at TSC on May 22, 2008
Service center: TSC
Last LUD on May 29
No updates since.
Currently working on EAD and exires in Sept 2008
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Just called the service center and reply I got back was weird. Apparently their case status viewing system is down and will not be up and running for another 1 week. So, no info as of now and call back in 1 week :(
Service center: TSC
Last LUD on May 29
No updates since.
Currently working on EAD and exires in Sept 2008
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Just called the service center and reply I got back was weird. Apparently their case status viewing system is down and will not be up and running for another 1 week. So, no info as of now and call back in 1 week :(
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hiUS
09-12 09:57 AM
Congratulations to everyone who is getting their applications approved.
My PD is Aug 2006 and I might have a remote chance of getting approved this month. Can someone give me the customer service number to talk about the 485 status. I keep seeing that many people talk to the customer service and get updates on the case. My case is pending at TSC. Thanks a lot.
It is the same number which you see on the 485 notice which you have.
select options as if you are checking your status on the phone (i.e. push buttons leading that direction, enter your receipt # listen to your LUD etc.). After that select the option which refers to "you believe you have a problem with your application" section (I think that is option 3). Then select the option which points problem with multiple applications (like if you believe your derivatives application seperated etc.). That one is option #4. That will end up at TSC IO. I hope my intstructions above will be helpful to you.
My PD is Aug 2006 and I might have a remote chance of getting approved this month. Can someone give me the customer service number to talk about the 485 status. I keep seeing that many people talk to the customer service and get updates on the case. My case is pending at TSC. Thanks a lot.
It is the same number which you see on the 485 notice which you have.
select options as if you are checking your status on the phone (i.e. push buttons leading that direction, enter your receipt # listen to your LUD etc.). After that select the option which refers to "you believe you have a problem with your application" section (I think that is option 3). Then select the option which points problem with multiple applications (like if you believe your derivatives application seperated etc.). That one is option #4. That will end up at TSC IO. I hope my intstructions above will be helpful to you.
txh1b
09-14 12:26 PM
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simple1
05-02 02:00 AM
http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/87867.pdf
status: refers to immigrant status like lawfully admitted, parolee, denied, etc. not refering to preference category (fb eb etc).
ORDER OF CONSIDERATION: just means priority date of primary, which I agree derivative can and must use primary's PD. All I am contesting is about quota.
http://www.uscis.gov/propub/ProPubVAP.jsp?dockey=c9fef57852dc066cfe16a4cb81683 8a4[/url]
203(d) => Treatment of Family Members. - A spouse or child as defined in subparagraph (A), (B), (C), (D), or (E) of section 101(b)(1) shall, if not otherwise entitled to an immigrant status and the immediate issuance of a visa under subsection (a), (b), or (c), be entitled to the same status, and the same order of consideration provided in the respective subsection, if accompanying or following to join, the spouse or parent.
same status can be EB GC or just GC ?? If it is EB GC then this thread can RIP
status: refers to immigrant status like lawfully admitted, parolee, denied, etc. not refering to preference category (fb eb etc).
ORDER OF CONSIDERATION: just means priority date of primary, which I agree derivative can and must use primary's PD. All I am contesting is about quota.
http://www.uscis.gov/propub/ProPubVAP.jsp?dockey=c9fef57852dc066cfe16a4cb81683 8a4[/url]
203(d) => Treatment of Family Members. - A spouse or child as defined in subparagraph (A), (B), (C), (D), or (E) of section 101(b)(1) shall, if not otherwise entitled to an immigrant status and the immediate issuance of a visa under subsection (a), (b), or (c), be entitled to the same status, and the same order of consideration provided in the respective subsection, if accompanying or following to join, the spouse or parent.
same status can be EB GC or just GC ?? If it is EB GC then this thread can RIP
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eb3_nepa
07-05 05:40 PM
I am telling you guys, send the major News channels a Big Stinking Dead Fish with the message "Something's FISHY at the USCIS and it STINKS for Legal Immigrants".
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simple1
05-01 03:44 PM
Honestly, I did not understand jchan's scenario.
AFIK, none will get affected. Please look for my earlier posts regarding I485 Derivative application pre-requisites.
I am waiting to hear from IV-core's or forum-attorney�s interpretation.
Chan is right. If interpretation will start the way you are proposing, it will be sheer disaster for people who didn't file I-485 yet.
AFIK, none will get affected. Please look for my earlier posts regarding I485 Derivative application pre-requisites.
I am waiting to hear from IV-core's or forum-attorney�s interpretation.
Chan is right. If interpretation will start the way you are proposing, it will be sheer disaster for people who didn't file I-485 yet.
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jaggubhai
08-12 08:45 AM
Same exact sequence of events happened to me. I am sure we will have our cards this week God willingly.
Same set of events for me as well
485: Received CPO email for self and spouse: 8/4/8
485: Received email welcoming new PR: 8/5/8
485: Received email for approval notice sent: 8/8/8
Also
485: Received welcome letter for both: 8/9/8
Still waiting for the cards
Same set of events for me as well
485: Received CPO email for self and spouse: 8/4/8
485: Received email welcoming new PR: 8/5/8
485: Received email for approval notice sent: 8/8/8
Also
485: Received welcome letter for both: 8/9/8
Still waiting for the cards
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yetanotherguyinline
07-10 06:00 PM
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Yes, we will finalize by tonight the text for the flyers for posting in the grocery stores. We need volunteers for putting out these flyers. If you want to help please PM me your contact details. There is a conference call t'night at 7:30 p.m. for allocation of duties.
I already have four volunteers need more.
I am in the bay area and can help organize this. I have sent an request to add myself on the yahoo group.
Yes, we will finalize by tonight the text for the flyers for posting in the grocery stores. We need volunteers for putting out these flyers. If you want to help please PM me your contact details. There is a conference call t'night at 7:30 p.m. for allocation of duties.
I already have four volunteers need more.
I am in the bay area and can help organize this. I have sent an request to add myself on the yahoo group.
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mallu
12-16 08:18 PM
I consider the 30-40 range 'golden' years . Enough experience to handle various things without much botheration of senility. Depression is not continuous, but comes once in a while. Currently i am optimistic that India EB2 will move forward starting Oct.2008 and my PD of Nov.2002 will become current some time in 2009 and i will be inching to 10 years of SSN eligibility.
I also have following kind of worries too, which haunt me often.
Being the 'only son' there is a big emotional pull from the parents to take care of them. But am worried about 'transporting' the American citizen kid back to India ( like them adjusting to the culture there ). Now my batch mates who got GC ( because they came early to USA and got lucky. One India EB2 friend - applied PERM in 2005 & I-485 in 2005 - got his GC in Aug 2007 ! ) , aiming for citizenship , then they want to move to India and plan to bring up kids there. And when they are 'ripe' for higher studies, march back to USA.
I also have following kind of worries too, which haunt me often.
Being the 'only son' there is a big emotional pull from the parents to take care of them. But am worried about 'transporting' the American citizen kid back to India ( like them adjusting to the culture there ). Now my batch mates who got GC ( because they came early to USA and got lucky. One India EB2 friend - applied PERM in 2005 & I-485 in 2005 - got his GC in Aug 2007 ! ) , aiming for citizenship , then they want to move to India and plan to bring up kids there. And when they are 'ripe' for higher studies, march back to USA.
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tikka
05-23 11:32 AM
Thank you for your e-mail. It is very important to me to know the issues
that are of concern to you. A growing number of my constituents are now
choosing to communicate with me via e-mail. I hope you will understand
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raised in your message. I do, however, want to let you know immediately
that your message has been received. Hearing from you and others through
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and others, which is very helpful to me in my work in the United States
Senate. I hope you will continue to monitor my work through my website
at http://clinton.senate.gov, and I welcome hearing from you.
Sincerely,
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that are of concern to you. A growing number of my constituents are now
choosing to communicate with me via e-mail. I hope you will understand
that, because of the volume and range of e-mails I receive, it can take
some time to send a response that specifically addresses the subject
raised in your message. I do, however, want to let you know immediately
that your message has been received. Hearing from you and others through
e-mail helps me to quickly learn the views and interests of New Yorkers
and others, which is very helpful to me in my work in the United States
Senate. I hope you will continue to monitor my work through my website
at http://clinton.senate.gov, and I welcome hearing from you.
Sincerely,
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pyaradesi
07-19 10:09 PM
Sanhari,
If GCs were sold in stores I would buy you and your family a bunch of them.
You are in the EB3 category, do you ever wonder why somebody who is more educated than you or me, makes more money? Can we say, hey you I was born in 1890 I should make more money, it does not fly, EB3 is not a reflection on your skills but more the job you hold.
The question you should ask is why have EB1, 2, 3, etc?
Why do you not include the family based categories, isn't family first, why not the EB spill over to to FB first then whatever trickles down comes to EB, is not this fair? I am sure there are a lot in the FB queue who have waited for longer than you. Now dont tell you you are better than FB because you are highly skilled, pay taxes, etc.
You signed up for this knowing what was in store.
You think writing a letter or starting up a thread is going to help?
I just wonder, is IV some kind of therapy? something like weightwatchers,
maybe we should call ourselves GCWatchers, for frustrated GC folks from India.
Tell me this, are your bosses fools to sponsor you in EB3, do they not know it will take years? No they are not, ask yourself why?
India is shining, not a bad proposition at all.
If GCs were sold in stores I would buy you and your family a bunch of them.
You are in the EB3 category, do you ever wonder why somebody who is more educated than you or me, makes more money? Can we say, hey you I was born in 1890 I should make more money, it does not fly, EB3 is not a reflection on your skills but more the job you hold.
The question you should ask is why have EB1, 2, 3, etc?
Why do you not include the family based categories, isn't family first, why not the EB spill over to to FB first then whatever trickles down comes to EB, is not this fair? I am sure there are a lot in the FB queue who have waited for longer than you. Now dont tell you you are better than FB because you are highly skilled, pay taxes, etc.
You signed up for this knowing what was in store.
You think writing a letter or starting up a thread is going to help?
I just wonder, is IV some kind of therapy? something like weightwatchers,
maybe we should call ourselves GCWatchers, for frustrated GC folks from India.
Tell me this, are your bosses fools to sponsor you in EB3, do they not know it will take years? No they are not, ask yourself why?
India is shining, not a bad proposition at all.
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vaishnavilakshmi
07-05 01:34 AM
Hi,
Ours is Substituted labor(eb3) and Priority date is Feb2002.
Our lawyer sent our papers on 29th june2007.Don't know the status of mail,since my lawyer is not responding to our mail.
vaishu
Ours is Substituted labor(eb3) and Priority date is Feb2002.
Our lawyer sent our papers on 29th june2007.Don't know the status of mail,since my lawyer is not responding to our mail.
vaishu
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The7zen
05-09 12:16 AM
How about getting together on the 20th of this month,
Move fast and hold a rally or send out flowers to Obama administration for their racism towards immigrants.
Act fast, I know 20th is close, think about is as an emergency
Well...where are we meeting ?
Move fast and hold a rally or send out flowers to Obama administration for their racism towards immigrants.
Act fast, I know 20th is close, think about is as an emergency
Well...where are we meeting ?
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perm
07-03 10:45 AM
Are you guys serious. and if so. I am IN.
For those who will 'JUST MOVE ON'......... Please don't and you should not just forget this.
Just be yourself and express it out
so is the plan to send flowers collectively, on the same day?
Is there a way we can help the citizens / GC / Locals and they can too, in - return, send flowers and the note on our behalf?
lago raho...
For those who will 'JUST MOVE ON'......... Please don't and you should not just forget this.
Just be yourself and express it out
so is the plan to send flowers collectively, on the same day?
Is there a way we can help the citizens / GC / Locals and they can too, in - return, send flowers and the note on our behalf?
lago raho...
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immig4me
02-28 09:08 AM
Good to see members coming forward with donations!
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mnkaushik
08-26 03:40 PM
OK Thanks. And any recent LUD on 485 and already approved EAD (such as 08/21/2010 as most of us got)? Just trying to derive some pattern here...
None on the 485 and we are really not tracking the EAD.
None on the 485 and we are really not tracking the EAD.
rolrblade
11-21 08:10 AM
Hello Mehul:
I pray for you and your family and hope that god gives you the courage to deal with this extremely unfortunate situation.
On the note of your question, I have written to Greg Siskind requesting him to highlight you situation (ofcourse maintaining anonimity) and to suggest any recourse that you might have. Please keep an eye out on his blog and I hope he addresses this.
As a note to all the administrators of this IV forum, I am sure we can pull a few strings to have an attorney provide a free consultation to Mehul .
ALso, Mehul, if you cannot find an attorney who can provide a free consultation, please let me know and I can request my attorney if he would do this favor for me.
I pray for you and your family and hope that god gives you the courage to deal with this extremely unfortunate situation.
On the note of your question, I have written to Greg Siskind requesting him to highlight you situation (ofcourse maintaining anonimity) and to suggest any recourse that you might have. Please keep an eye out on his blog and I hope he addresses this.
As a note to all the administrators of this IV forum, I am sure we can pull a few strings to have an attorney provide a free consultation to Mehul .
ALso, Mehul, if you cannot find an attorney who can provide a free consultation, please let me know and I can request my attorney if he would do this favor for me.
vinabath
03-25 03:44 PM
My PD is Oct 2006. Its seems like i have to wait around 10+ years. Do you think i should go for EAD instead of H1B transfer and H1B extension
I think you will get in less than 2 years. It will not take 10 years. Hang on. Total GC process time from applying to labor to getting GC usually is 4 years. some unlucky people had to wait more than that. But more than 80% fall in to 4 year time line.
but some were lucky people got it quickly because they could cut lines.
I think you will get in less than 2 years. It will not take 10 years. Hang on. Total GC process time from applying to labor to getting GC usually is 4 years. some unlucky people had to wait more than that. But more than 80% fall in to 4 year time line.
but some were lucky people got it quickly because they could cut lines.
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