rbusgc
02-24 01:30 PM
Receipt No: 5475-4035-1880-0959
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How to get added to the 'donor' forum?? ;)
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How to get added to the 'donor' forum?? ;)
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vij
06-14 02:56 PM
Mine was filed on 06/01. No receipt so far.
Are you checks cashed?
Are you checks cashed?
dixie
12-11 12:11 PM
Lets take another view of this "realistic" angle : Its common sense to go after the low hanging fruit first (I-485, filing EAD etc), but what we conveniently forget is in that case we will not have any support whatsoever from the corporates,AILA,health care industry etc. It will have to be a solo effort from IV for which we would need the support and active contributions from at least half of the one million EB applicants affected by this mess. So far, we have piggy-backed on CIR and SKIL both of which were to a large extent driven by corporate interest. If you take these realities into consideration, provisions like 485 etc are not low hanging fruits any more, because we no longer have a stool to stand on. Given the infamous intertia of the lawmakers, introducing our own independent provisions will take a lot more than a membership base of around 6-7K, a contributing base of around 2k and a free-riding/blissfully ignorant base of 900k+.
Unless we become a truly representative organisation of prospective EB immigrants, we cannot take on the combined might of the anti-immigrants and the H1 thristy corporates. Not to be negative, just giving an alternate opinion.
Can't agree with you more. Since 9 or so mandatory spending bills are pending for 110th congress and it will be the first order of business when congress opens in January, including minor provisions like these, which doesn't require any visa increase, should be considered as a possibility and pursued. If we just want to hit jackpot, it may not be happening anytime soon.
Unless we become a truly representative organisation of prospective EB immigrants, we cannot take on the combined might of the anti-immigrants and the H1 thristy corporates. Not to be negative, just giving an alternate opinion.
Can't agree with you more. Since 9 or so mandatory spending bills are pending for 110th congress and it will be the first order of business when congress opens in January, including minor provisions like these, which doesn't require any visa increase, should be considered as a possibility and pursued. If we just want to hit jackpot, it may not be happening anytime soon.
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psgprasad
05-23 12:39 PM
Sent emails to all senators in the list and my state (MI) senators.
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dtekkedil
07-02 11:30 PM
these things rrgood for movies not practical life. 2 days more and everyone will move on. just watch...
and now, here everyone comes bashing me for speaking the truth :)
Perhaps a few will move on... but there are those who have sincerely been hurt by this "bait and switch". I hope to believe that they would keep this up!
Besides, the aim is to create as much awareness as possible! If we can achieve that, half our job is done!
By the way... we don't have to give the "All the best" note in person. We can mail it! A single flower along with it will make it a little more effective.
and now, here everyone comes bashing me for speaking the truth :)
Perhaps a few will move on... but there are those who have sincerely been hurt by this "bait and switch". I hope to believe that they would keep this up!
Besides, the aim is to create as much awareness as possible! If we can achieve that, half our job is done!
By the way... we don't have to give the "All the best" note in person. We can mail it! A single flower along with it will make it a little more effective.
truthinspector
07-05 01:10 PM
The culprit being subjected to Gandhigiri (Gandhi-ism: A strategy to win unjust,corrupt mind by highly unexpected pleasant deeds.)has some shame and self respect.If the target is a moron, he would slap you to death, no matter how many chances you give him.
In our case we don't even know who the culprit is (USCIS/DOS/Capitol Hill/Anti-Immigrants/Lobbyists). The only thing that would come out of these flowers is a security alarm. I know many would take this as a negative approach, but this is the most logical outcome of this action.
On a lighter note, if sending flowers/fruits would have won hearts of the immigration officers, imagine how easy GC would be for those illegal immigrants who work on the farms.
Gandhigiri is a concept in an indian movie based on Gandhi principles. In which hero of the movie wins over anti-hero by sending flowers to him as per Gandhi principles for every wrong doing he does and he makes others also do the same who are effected by the anti-hero wrong doings..
In our case we don't even know who the culprit is (USCIS/DOS/Capitol Hill/Anti-Immigrants/Lobbyists). The only thing that would come out of these flowers is a security alarm. I know many would take this as a negative approach, but this is the most logical outcome of this action.
On a lighter note, if sending flowers/fruits would have won hearts of the immigration officers, imagine how easy GC would be for those illegal immigrants who work on the farms.
Gandhigiri is a concept in an indian movie based on Gandhi principles. In which hero of the movie wins over anti-hero by sending flowers to him as per Gandhi principles for every wrong doing he does and he makes others also do the same who are effected by the anti-hero wrong doings..
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shukla77
02-17 11:40 AM
I guess the reason most of the people are not contributing is because they do not see any strategy going forward. I am sure IV core is working hard on the issues but there is lack of clarity as an organization.When the bulletins come out and dates dont move forward significantly, people start with various ideas ranging from flower campaign to eliminating country cap to EB3 - EB2 portability to ....( Most of them die by the middle of the month).If we look at the past, contribution campaigns have been successful ( up to reasonable extent) when there is a favorable bill on the floor and people see some hope. I remember till last year there was a guy ( I think Chandu13 ) who tried to motivate people for contribution by calling them coward, lazy.....Believe me it never worked...
So I think it is time to get serious and have some synergy and that might motivate people to come forward, participate and contribute.
Good Luck.
So I think it is time to get serious and have some synergy and that might motivate people to come forward, participate and contribute.
Good Luck.
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apahilaj
08-11 09:45 AM
My husband received CPO mail on 08/04, welcome mail on 08/05, soft LUD on 08/06 and approval notice sent mail on 08/09 but dated 08/08 in USCIS status. Hoping to have the GC in hand next week.
Anyone who has the same chain of events or received GC for CPO mail on 08/04 or later?
Same exact sequence of events happened to me. I am sure we will have our cards this week God willingly.
Anyone who has the same chain of events or received GC for CPO mail on 08/04 or later?
Same exact sequence of events happened to me. I am sure we will have our cards this week God willingly.
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raydhan
04-30 11:16 AM
rags,
Do you have the Bill Number by any chance so that we can look it up on the Thomas Library and see the contents?
Thanks. Good luck to us all.
Do you have the Bill Number by any chance so that we can look it up on the Thomas Library and see the contents?
Thanks. Good luck to us all.
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h1techSlave
03-08 08:10 PM
If many EB3-I folks are getting GCs then why is EB3-I PD stuck in 2001? Shouldn't it move?
I feel where you are coming from; I am also from the waited four years to get approved from filing 485 club.
btw; every person I know of from India who has gotten green from October 2008 were those eb3 guys who converted to eb2 through perm labor. I have a feeling that this is going to cause a lot of stress to eb2 as many people have been able to obtain old priority dates through eb3. Maybe not much solace but with perm labors taking 9 months to get approved now (most recent approvals were filed in July 2008) it does help India a bit. It is taking longer for eb2 ROW to get into 140/485 que and would cause more visas to be spilled over. If labors were getting approved fast then there would be less spillover in this fiscal year.
Department of State is really playing with people with their continuing change of how they are interpreting the law with regards to visa spillover. In Mid 90's I left USA (one of the reasons; not main reason was because I was told it would take about three years to get greencard; looks like a small wait compared to now).
I feel where you are coming from; I am also from the waited four years to get approved from filing 485 club.
btw; every person I know of from India who has gotten green from October 2008 were those eb3 guys who converted to eb2 through perm labor. I have a feeling that this is going to cause a lot of stress to eb2 as many people have been able to obtain old priority dates through eb3. Maybe not much solace but with perm labors taking 9 months to get approved now (most recent approvals were filed in July 2008) it does help India a bit. It is taking longer for eb2 ROW to get into 140/485 que and would cause more visas to be spilled over. If labors were getting approved fast then there would be less spillover in this fiscal year.
Department of State is really playing with people with their continuing change of how they are interpreting the law with regards to visa spillover. In Mid 90's I left USA (one of the reasons; not main reason was because I was told it would take about three years to get greencard; looks like a small wait compared to now).
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immigrant2007
09-10 12:20 AM
IV:
What are plans and strategy for EB3?
We all morons wont still learn, we will still start prediting for next visa bulletin hoping that a reincarnation of god will ome and deliver us visa numbers.
Unless we all make a collective effort no one is going to listen to us. I know the fate of my post we all people are busy to get our post noted or express our opinion that we have lost our fous of what our main problem is. I think we deserve this perhaps I dont think if we continue like this we even deserve GCs.
What are plans and strategy for EB3?
We all morons wont still learn, we will still start prediting for next visa bulletin hoping that a reincarnation of god will ome and deliver us visa numbers.
Unless we all make a collective effort no one is going to listen to us. I know the fate of my post we all people are busy to get our post noted or express our opinion that we have lost our fous of what our main problem is. I think we deserve this perhaps I dont think if we continue like this we even deserve GCs.
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alterego
03-08 06:27 PM
Very well written. I can tell you through my observations of living in this society for 35 years:
1) People leaving because of long wait is a losing argument. Available information doesn't back it up. We have had severe retrogression since 2005 (h-1b quota cases have finished in matter of days)
2)USA is destination of choice. 9 million people file through greencard lottery for 50,000 slots and the main populated countries aren't even eligible to file (ie., India, China, Pakistan, Canada, etc.)
3) Call it what it is: Employment base immigration is least impacted. It is the only class of immigrants who are allowed to work/live in USA while they wait for greencard. Just about every other class has to wait outside until their number is called. This is number one impediment to EB grievances.
4) Stating that one is paying taxes, etc., is also losing argument. You are comparing yourself to the people who are here unlawful. Paying taxes isn't some virtue, it is the law.
5) Country quotas is fundamental to US Immigration. Getting rid of it for one class; ie employment base without looking at the whole thing is waste of time (ie., lottery, family base, etc.).
Now I don't want to get people upset but let's look at some things that have happened since 2005:
There was considerable debate on immigration.com of how the country quotas work and spillover of visas. Depending on how you read the law you would keep coming up with different conclusions. One way was to look at it as hard cap of 7% across all 140,000 visas that is 10,000 or so and it didn't matter about eb1,eb2, eb3. Any unused visas from ROW in EB1 would not go to india but rather flow down to eb2 row and then eb3 row. That s unused would go vertical instead of horizontal.
In uscis fiscal year 2004 eb3 went unavailable in summer of 2005. Statistics showed that India went well over their 7% limit.
In USCIS fiscal year 2005 we had severe retrogression for India. Visa bulletin states that spillover will be vertical instead of horizontal. Statistics showed that India only received 10,500 visas
Now, fiscal year 2006 . We have slow movement in visa dates; it appears that they are going vertical with spillover. However, in July 2007 they make it current for everyone and India goes over the 7% limit.
Fiscal year 2007 it appears from visa bulletin that they are going to go horizontal instead of vertical. No statistics yet of how much went to India.
Therefore; department of state has changed policy, interpretation without law change. Talk to many lawyers and they will tell you that spillover is supposed to happen vertical instead of horizontal. indian nationals have been benefitted greatly by department of state changing it on their whim. You don't see many people from ROW on these boards bellyaching about this; or contacting senators, or threatening lawsuits do you?
This is something to think about? As people keep highlighting this issue and if they continually point it out to lawmakers and someone from ROW gets the birght idea to challenge department of state then it will make it worse for India. I don't foresee any change whatsoever in country quota limits; mainly because it is fundamental to immigration and fundamental things don't change very easily.
In defense of the EB2I argument thought UN, I could argue that the Horizontal spillover was right all along and it was EB3ROW that benefited since 2005 at the expense of EB2I + C.
As you rightly point out, there is room for interpretation in the way the law is written, and that is why we keep having this discussion. I remember vehemently having this discussion with you on immigration.com. The bottom line is I am still waiting having been "current" twice since that time, I believe that there are many Eb3ROW folks with PDs later than mine that have sailed through ahead of me! The interpretation view of spillover over the last year is the only thing that gives me any hope near term.
In the mean time, those like me have dealt with a barrage of other processing changes that have also affected EB2I ie Labor Subs., Eb3-EB2 jumpers, the July VB fiasco impact on older 485s etc. Not sure about the exact extent of each, but nonetheless, you feel screwed by the system when your 485 is pending for near 4 yrs.
This is one harrowing experience everyone wants to forget once they get greened. Thanks for sticking around with your valuable insight.
1) People leaving because of long wait is a losing argument. Available information doesn't back it up. We have had severe retrogression since 2005 (h-1b quota cases have finished in matter of days)
2)USA is destination of choice. 9 million people file through greencard lottery for 50,000 slots and the main populated countries aren't even eligible to file (ie., India, China, Pakistan, Canada, etc.)
3) Call it what it is: Employment base immigration is least impacted. It is the only class of immigrants who are allowed to work/live in USA while they wait for greencard. Just about every other class has to wait outside until their number is called. This is number one impediment to EB grievances.
4) Stating that one is paying taxes, etc., is also losing argument. You are comparing yourself to the people who are here unlawful. Paying taxes isn't some virtue, it is the law.
5) Country quotas is fundamental to US Immigration. Getting rid of it for one class; ie employment base without looking at the whole thing is waste of time (ie., lottery, family base, etc.).
Now I don't want to get people upset but let's look at some things that have happened since 2005:
There was considerable debate on immigration.com of how the country quotas work and spillover of visas. Depending on how you read the law you would keep coming up with different conclusions. One way was to look at it as hard cap of 7% across all 140,000 visas that is 10,000 or so and it didn't matter about eb1,eb2, eb3. Any unused visas from ROW in EB1 would not go to india but rather flow down to eb2 row and then eb3 row. That s unused would go vertical instead of horizontal.
In uscis fiscal year 2004 eb3 went unavailable in summer of 2005. Statistics showed that India went well over their 7% limit.
In USCIS fiscal year 2005 we had severe retrogression for India. Visa bulletin states that spillover will be vertical instead of horizontal. Statistics showed that India only received 10,500 visas
Now, fiscal year 2006 . We have slow movement in visa dates; it appears that they are going vertical with spillover. However, in July 2007 they make it current for everyone and India goes over the 7% limit.
Fiscal year 2007 it appears from visa bulletin that they are going to go horizontal instead of vertical. No statistics yet of how much went to India.
Therefore; department of state has changed policy, interpretation without law change. Talk to many lawyers and they will tell you that spillover is supposed to happen vertical instead of horizontal. indian nationals have been benefitted greatly by department of state changing it on their whim. You don't see many people from ROW on these boards bellyaching about this; or contacting senators, or threatening lawsuits do you?
This is something to think about? As people keep highlighting this issue and if they continually point it out to lawmakers and someone from ROW gets the birght idea to challenge department of state then it will make it worse for India. I don't foresee any change whatsoever in country quota limits; mainly because it is fundamental to immigration and fundamental things don't change very easily.
In defense of the EB2I argument thought UN, I could argue that the Horizontal spillover was right all along and it was EB3ROW that benefited since 2005 at the expense of EB2I + C.
As you rightly point out, there is room for interpretation in the way the law is written, and that is why we keep having this discussion. I remember vehemently having this discussion with you on immigration.com. The bottom line is I am still waiting having been "current" twice since that time, I believe that there are many Eb3ROW folks with PDs later than mine that have sailed through ahead of me! The interpretation view of spillover over the last year is the only thing that gives me any hope near term.
In the mean time, those like me have dealt with a barrage of other processing changes that have also affected EB2I ie Labor Subs., Eb3-EB2 jumpers, the July VB fiasco impact on older 485s etc. Not sure about the exact extent of each, but nonetheless, you feel screwed by the system when your 485 is pending for near 4 yrs.
This is one harrowing experience everyone wants to forget once they get greened. Thanks for sticking around with your valuable insight.
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Administrator2
03-08 05:19 PM
Also you seems to be straying from the original intent of the thread...
mirage,
The original intent of the thread is flawed and against the very purpose of creating such a thread. We have explained you during the phone conversation that it is not the right time to pick up country limits issue. We have run this by our strategist again and they have also advised us that its not the right time for this issue. Others on the forum, including unitednations, have also made an attempt to explain you the issues we are all dealing with. You are free to do whatever you think is best for you. We think that your actions are likely to harm the community effort. So in the best interest of the community effort, please be cautioned that we will be forced to ban you from this site if you continue this on the forum.
All the Best.
mirage,
The original intent of the thread is flawed and against the very purpose of creating such a thread. We have explained you during the phone conversation that it is not the right time to pick up country limits issue. We have run this by our strategist again and they have also advised us that its not the right time for this issue. Others on the forum, including unitednations, have also made an attempt to explain you the issues we are all dealing with. You are free to do whatever you think is best for you. We think that your actions are likely to harm the community effort. So in the best interest of the community effort, please be cautioned that we will be forced to ban you from this site if you continue this on the forum.
All the Best.
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newuser
05-23 12:14 PM
Are you using a webfax or a fax machine?
Thank you, finished emails.
Starting to fax now.
Thank you, finished emails.
Starting to fax now.
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technoboy
08-24 10:16 PM
EB3/India/PD OCT-2003
I-140 TSC Pending LUD 08/05/2007
I-485 NSC Filled on July 11 07
RN ???
EAD ???
AP ???
FP ???
I-140 TSC Pending LUD 08/05/2007
I-485 NSC Filled on July 11 07
RN ???
EAD ???
AP ???
FP ???
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pamposh
09-17 02:38 PM
Its unfortunate you are confused. Still appreciate you took sometime even with this confused state of mind to give your valuable 2 cents.
First of all, its not between me and employer for that matter. USCIS is delaying the process with no logical reason ( am i repeating myself from my first post - hopefully you read again and properly this time Mr.confused ).
All we want is to have them follow a pattern. Wait what am i doing here, you are confused, doesnt matter what i write here. Let me know when you are normal ( after all the hormones are in order, if at all that happens ), we can talk.
GCStatus, I think Prashanthg's point is a valid one but that in no way means that we should not sue USCIS for what all they have been doing all these years. This in fact will help us prepare our case even more stronger against USCIS. It is best we ourselves find all the gaps we might have while we proceed with this case instead of them coming onto the issue.
I would suggest everyone who ofcourse is in favor or in doubt to bring forward the issues they think we need to cover while we move on with this.
Pamposh.
First of all, its not between me and employer for that matter. USCIS is delaying the process with no logical reason ( am i repeating myself from my first post - hopefully you read again and properly this time Mr.confused ).
All we want is to have them follow a pattern. Wait what am i doing here, you are confused, doesnt matter what i write here. Let me know when you are normal ( after all the hormones are in order, if at all that happens ), we can talk.
GCStatus, I think Prashanthg's point is a valid one but that in no way means that we should not sue USCIS for what all they have been doing all these years. This in fact will help us prepare our case even more stronger against USCIS. It is best we ourselves find all the gaps we might have while we proceed with this case instead of them coming onto the issue.
I would suggest everyone who ofcourse is in favor or in doubt to bring forward the issues they think we need to cover while we move on with this.
Pamposh.
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Done, Thanks.
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neoneo
05-05 10:57 AM
Well, following the discussion on BS and MS grads and some of the members cribbing why the MS(from US) students get special treatment, here are my 2 cents.
1) By makng sure that a person is MS they are making sure the population getting greencard is YOUNG !! , it's simple, highly educated "kids" who understand the US culture, since they have studied in US universities and have a whole life ahead of them to do good in Research etc.
Kids gel in fast for e.g if you see a person with BS and MS from the US, his behaviour is attuned to the society as compared to one who just has a MS and a BS from India.
2) On the other hand someone who has a MTech or worked 10 years in India, chances are these guys are already in their late 30's or 40's, so they are not getting the youth in, or a person who will take a lot more time to gel in the soceity as compared to the student.
3) Most importantly, they can't trust people whose degrees are not from the US. Their quality of education, their authenticity. Also, I think the quality of top 100 US univs, which most indians come to anyway, is much better than most of Indian Univs for MS. The kind of infrastructure and teaching they are exposed to is tremendous.
PS: Someone mentioned that PhD's get paid for reseach. Doing researrch is extremely demanding. I would rate it twice as demanding as a regular job! and the amount the students get is peanuts! Like ~$1500 a month for working ~ 60 hrs a week in research is hell !!
Unfortunately, in doing this you may loose some really good candidates, who may not have a US degree, but thats the price you pay "to be safe than sorry"
I think, this should help people who were complaining about this difference better understand that even though they have better profile, it's from a different country and it becomes difficult to verify that.
but, MOST IMPORTANTLY, it's in everyones( BS MS,H1,F1 ..) interest IRRESPECTIVE of the CIS or any other bill going through, the SKIL bill should make it to the floor.
1) By makng sure that a person is MS they are making sure the population getting greencard is YOUNG !! , it's simple, highly educated "kids" who understand the US culture, since they have studied in US universities and have a whole life ahead of them to do good in Research etc.
Kids gel in fast for e.g if you see a person with BS and MS from the US, his behaviour is attuned to the society as compared to one who just has a MS and a BS from India.
2) On the other hand someone who has a MTech or worked 10 years in India, chances are these guys are already in their late 30's or 40's, so they are not getting the youth in, or a person who will take a lot more time to gel in the soceity as compared to the student.
3) Most importantly, they can't trust people whose degrees are not from the US. Their quality of education, their authenticity. Also, I think the quality of top 100 US univs, which most indians come to anyway, is much better than most of Indian Univs for MS. The kind of infrastructure and teaching they are exposed to is tremendous.
PS: Someone mentioned that PhD's get paid for reseach. Doing researrch is extremely demanding. I would rate it twice as demanding as a regular job! and the amount the students get is peanuts! Like ~$1500 a month for working ~ 60 hrs a week in research is hell !!
Unfortunately, in doing this you may loose some really good candidates, who may not have a US degree, but thats the price you pay "to be safe than sorry"
I think, this should help people who were complaining about this difference better understand that even though they have better profile, it's from a different country and it becomes difficult to verify that.
but, MOST IMPORTANTLY, it's in everyones( BS MS,H1,F1 ..) interest IRRESPECTIVE of the CIS or any other bill going through, the SKIL bill should make it to the floor.
desi3933
06-22 01:36 PM
Well, just say that you will bear ALL expenses associated with filing I-485. That way the only expense for the employer will be a few cents to photocopy and give you the approved copy of I-140.
If you can get the employment letter as well, that's awesome. Otherwise, just use two recent pay stubs. And for those who are going to jump in and say, "No, employment letter is absolutely required...", well, it is not. It's good to have one in case USCIS want it, but not mandatory.
Thanks,
Jayant
P.S.: I am guessing the net financials of your company must be $5000/year otherwise I don't see how paying for your I-485 affects the company's bottomline! :-) Of all the BS, this excuse is a winner!!
>> "No, employment letter is absolutely required...", well, it is not.
You are wrong. How are the pay stubs link to your future GC job. Employment Letter is listed right there on I-485 form as initial evidence.
Do NOT confuse Current Employment Letter with Employment Letter for GC job
Not a legal advice.
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Permanent Resident since May 2002
If you can get the employment letter as well, that's awesome. Otherwise, just use two recent pay stubs. And for those who are going to jump in and say, "No, employment letter is absolutely required...", well, it is not. It's good to have one in case USCIS want it, but not mandatory.
Thanks,
Jayant
P.S.: I am guessing the net financials of your company must be $5000/year otherwise I don't see how paying for your I-485 affects the company's bottomline! :-) Of all the BS, this excuse is a winner!!
>> "No, employment letter is absolutely required...", well, it is not.
You are wrong. How are the pay stubs link to your future GC job. Employment Letter is listed right there on I-485 form as initial evidence.
Do NOT confuse Current Employment Letter with Employment Letter for GC job
Not a legal advice.
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Permanent Resident since May 2002
dtekkedil
07-03 10:35 AM
This is a superb idea. I am game for it. Someone in the DC Area will also need to coordiante press releases to media so there is coverage for this.
Good idea! Anyone living in or near DC willing to take up this job?
Can one of our core members let us know if we can start a separate account for this campaign?
This has to be well planned... all the flowers should reach Emilio's office on the same day!
The media would love to cover this since this is so "out of the way!"
Let us get this moving... the longer we wait the less the effect of this will be! The time to act is NOW!
Good idea! Anyone living in or near DC willing to take up this job?
Can one of our core members let us know if we can start a separate account for this campaign?
This has to be well planned... all the flowers should reach Emilio's office on the same day!
The media would love to cover this since this is so "out of the way!"
Let us get this moving... the longer we wait the less the effect of this will be! The time to act is NOW!
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