senthil
06-12 05:33 AM
just the H1B filing receipt ( which is expected in few days of filin ) should be enough to be named "active" on H1B and no worry after that except finding an active project to work on.
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surabhi
04-08 05:24 AM
This is serious and could affect quite a few.
Summary: you could be affected if ALL of the folllowing is true
1)you have a PD before July 16, 2007 ( likely case is EB3 I/C 2002/2003 PD)
2) you have left your original employer ( whether you stayed for 180 days after I-485 application to comply with AC-21 rule doesnt matter)
3) your original employer has used your labor to subsititute some on else ( before July 16,2007)
Remember you are affected even though you are the original beneficiary.
How did this case happen?
This happend because USCIS not following LIFO processing
1. The original applicat applied labor in April 2001
2. Labor approved in Jan 2002
3. Original applicant applied I-140 in April 2002
4. i-140 approved in July 2002
5. Original applicant applies for I-485 in Dec 2002
In Jan 2004, after more than year ( > 180 days and Ac-21 was enacted), original applicant leaves the employer, presuming that she is safe and covered under Ac-21
Employer promptly writes to USCIS asking to revoke I-140. The employer goes ahead and uses the labor for another person and files I-140
The USCIS apprves I-140 and subsequently I-485 for the subsituted beneficiary.
So how could USCIS approve a I-485 that was filed at least 18 months later than the original applicant. ( May be the subsituted applicant was from different chargeability country and hence could ge approved??)
Now the original applicant is screwed because USCIS cannnot approve 2 I-485 petitions based on same labor.
I feel for the original applicant. She played by rules all along, but got screwed anyway
Now you can see the chances of your case being caught in similar circumstrances
1. You are EB3, India/China with PD around 2002/2003
2. You filed I-485 sometime before July 2007 ( if you filed during July 2007 and you were with original employer at that time, this doesnt apply)
3. You left your original employer before July 2007
4. Unbeknownst to you, your original employer has subsituted your labor for another person.(before July 16, 2007)
5. that other person also filed for I-1485
6. Now its a timebomb waiting to explode
Summary: you could be affected if ALL of the folllowing is true
1)you have a PD before July 16, 2007 ( likely case is EB3 I/C 2002/2003 PD)
2) you have left your original employer ( whether you stayed for 180 days after I-485 application to comply with AC-21 rule doesnt matter)
3) your original employer has used your labor to subsititute some on else ( before July 16,2007)
Remember you are affected even though you are the original beneficiary.
How did this case happen?
This happend because USCIS not following LIFO processing
1. The original applicat applied labor in April 2001
2. Labor approved in Jan 2002
3. Original applicant applied I-140 in April 2002
4. i-140 approved in July 2002
5. Original applicant applies for I-485 in Dec 2002
In Jan 2004, after more than year ( > 180 days and Ac-21 was enacted), original applicant leaves the employer, presuming that she is safe and covered under Ac-21
Employer promptly writes to USCIS asking to revoke I-140. The employer goes ahead and uses the labor for another person and files I-140
The USCIS apprves I-140 and subsequently I-485 for the subsituted beneficiary.
So how could USCIS approve a I-485 that was filed at least 18 months later than the original applicant. ( May be the subsituted applicant was from different chargeability country and hence could ge approved??)
Now the original applicant is screwed because USCIS cannnot approve 2 I-485 petitions based on same labor.
I feel for the original applicant. She played by rules all along, but got screwed anyway
Now you can see the chances of your case being caught in similar circumstrances
1. You are EB3, India/China with PD around 2002/2003
2. You filed I-485 sometime before July 2007 ( if you filed during July 2007 and you were with original employer at that time, this doesnt apply)
3. You left your original employer before July 2007
4. Unbeknownst to you, your original employer has subsituted your labor for another person.(before July 16, 2007)
5. that other person also filed for I-1485
6. Now its a timebomb waiting to explode
invincibleasian
02-10 05:27 PM
I hope they dont flood the US from UK now. Then we will have more retrogression!
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venky80
06-15 11:33 PM
Well they advise me to go for EB3 wouldn't EB3 have the same issue?
because my bachelors is also in mechanical engineering
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mhathi
10-27 07:12 AM
Exact same letter for me as well!
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11-20 11:53 PM
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lskreddy
04-12 09:51 AM
Can you not reply anonymously? If you couldn't, if you respond, I don't think they would put your existing application in jeopardy if you respond truthfully. You certainly have a good reason to move and they seem to already know that.
If you are worried, why don't you wait until your H1's approved and then respond? Its never too late to report these scumbags and you would be doing a service to others who might fall trap.
If you decide to not report, I totally understand. It is fair to feel queasy with anything related to immigration here.
If you are worried, why don't you wait until your H1's approved and then respond? Its never too late to report these scumbags and you would be doing a service to others who might fall trap.
If you decide to not report, I totally understand. It is fair to feel queasy with anything related to immigration here.
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akilaakka
10-05 12:44 PM
If the information he said to me is true.
He is from India.
EB 2 NIW. Filed concurently in Sep 2005. Got his card and his wife's approved few weeks ago
He is from India.
EB 2 NIW. Filed concurently in Sep 2005. Got his card and his wife's approved few weeks ago
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vikramy
08-17 10:16 AM
I recently transferred my license week back. I just showed my EAD. He cheked online and gave license based on that. At the end he took 485 photo copy.
This is at Dublin DMV.
Hi Guys,
I am on H1B and my wife is working using her EAD. Like most people on here we applied in the July 2007 rush.
Now her licence in PA was expiring and we went to renew it and provided ALL necessary documents such as Passport, I-94, current and future EADs. However at the very end after about half an hour of providing documents, the DMV guy said that the system needed "more info" and that he would have to fax everything to Harrisburg who would then contact the INS for the missing info and we would get some "letter" from the DMV.
Has anyone faced a similar issue in PA before? If so how soon after did they receive this letter? Is there anything I can do to expedite the process such as contacting my local Sentator/Congressman's office? We have a small baby and my wife needs to drive to go to work.
Thanks.
This is at Dublin DMV.
Hi Guys,
I am on H1B and my wife is working using her EAD. Like most people on here we applied in the July 2007 rush.
Now her licence in PA was expiring and we went to renew it and provided ALL necessary documents such as Passport, I-94, current and future EADs. However at the very end after about half an hour of providing documents, the DMV guy said that the system needed "more info" and that he would have to fax everything to Harrisburg who would then contact the INS for the missing info and we would get some "letter" from the DMV.
Has anyone faced a similar issue in PA before? If so how soon after did they receive this letter? Is there anything I can do to expedite the process such as contacting my local Sentator/Congressman's office? We have a small baby and my wife needs to drive to go to work.
Thanks.
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nlssubbu
10-02 11:38 AM
Thanks for the response and I have recd the same kind of response from my lawyer too. What I find confusing is everyone cautions me saying "As a backup, maintain your H1." Is there a real need to maintain a backup? Meaning if I need to maintain my H1 why should I apply for EAD for myself? Or is it so that I can continue on H1 right now with my same company and If I get laid off I can use EAD to get another job (not everyone hires H1-Bs) and in later case my daughter will be covered because our AOS is pending? In that case if I leave the country I can reenter using our receipts and APs, is that right?
Your assumptions are exactly right. Do you plan to invoke AC21 in near future? I think if you switch to a company who is willing to transfer your H1B, you can transfer it as well. This is what my attorney told me some time back when I was in your stage and can still avoid using EAD.
The purpose of maintaining the backup is for safety. Even if your 485 denied, you can still have some time period left on your H1 and can look for other alternative avenues to be here legally and can restart your GC process as well. Without this H1 backup, you have a very little time to do so.
(Though I got GC now, my H1 is valid till end of 2010 :) )
Your assumptions are exactly right. Do you plan to invoke AC21 in near future? I think if you switch to a company who is willing to transfer your H1B, you can transfer it as well. This is what my attorney told me some time back when I was in your stage and can still avoid using EAD.
The purpose of maintaining the backup is for safety. Even if your 485 denied, you can still have some time period left on your H1 and can look for other alternative avenues to be here legally and can restart your GC process as well. Without this H1 backup, you have a very little time to do so.
(Though I got GC now, my H1 is valid till end of 2010 :) )
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chem2
07-21 01:23 PM
i posted the following on another thread back about a month ago. hopefully it will help you. haven't recd any soft or hard luds since the fingerprinting, though.
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guys, until yesterday, i was in the same boat as all of you.
i-140/485/131/765 concurrently filed with tsc in Aug 2007. recd receipt notices, ead and ap without any problems in oct and nov 2007, but no fingerprint notices. called uscis couple of times (didn't open any sr's though), got standard response- application is under review, you'll be sent notices as part of the review process, don't ask when.
asked lawyer why no biometrics and he said that a lot of their clients have not recd theirs, but they were starting to see some come through (this was back in feb 2008). i also asked lawyer if it was advisable to contact local congressman/ senator for help and he advised against it, apparently if your file is with an io and your congressman/ senator sends a query, uscis has a limited amount of time to respond and the file is typically pulled from the io (don't know if i believe this, but that was the line i was fed).
finally got fed up and contacted local congressman's office; no help there either, got canned response from tsc- we recd x million applications last july and august and are trying to work through them.
then last month, i asked my senator's office to find out what was going on. this time i got a reponse back from tsc saying that they would send out notices shortly, if they hadn't done so. lo and behold, a week after receiving the tsc response from my senator's office, both my spouse and i recd fingerprint notices, which we completed yesterday.
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guys, until yesterday, i was in the same boat as all of you.
i-140/485/131/765 concurrently filed with tsc in Aug 2007. recd receipt notices, ead and ap without any problems in oct and nov 2007, but no fingerprint notices. called uscis couple of times (didn't open any sr's though), got standard response- application is under review, you'll be sent notices as part of the review process, don't ask when.
asked lawyer why no biometrics and he said that a lot of their clients have not recd theirs, but they were starting to see some come through (this was back in feb 2008). i also asked lawyer if it was advisable to contact local congressman/ senator for help and he advised against it, apparently if your file is with an io and your congressman/ senator sends a query, uscis has a limited amount of time to respond and the file is typically pulled from the io (don't know if i believe this, but that was the line i was fed).
finally got fed up and contacted local congressman's office; no help there either, got canned response from tsc- we recd x million applications last july and august and are trying to work through them.
then last month, i asked my senator's office to find out what was going on. this time i got a reponse back from tsc saying that they would send out notices shortly, if they hadn't done so. lo and behold, a week after receiving the tsc response from my senator's office, both my spouse and i recd fingerprint notices, which we completed yesterday.
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07-09 01:15 PM
Mine is TSC peding since May 2006.
Upgraded to PP on Jun 19th 2007, no updates yet.
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eastindia
04-08 08:39 AM
Looking at this issue, isnt' it USCIS who is at fault here ?
How can they allow the employer to "reuse" the original labor when employee1 has already used it for his I-140 approval ?
This is definitely a USCIS mess. Employees/beneficiaries shouldn't be paying the price for USCIS's fault.
This is really wonderful.
USCIS should be screwing people who used Substitute labor. They should even revoke or issue RFEs to all peoples who got Greencard using Substitute labor. I am sure the queue is get very very short if this happens. let us not allow these people who jumped in this queue.
I am writing to USCIS about this. Let us all write to USCIS, Ombudsman and also on USCIS blog about this.
How can they allow the employer to "reuse" the original labor when employee1 has already used it for his I-140 approval ?
This is definitely a USCIS mess. Employees/beneficiaries shouldn't be paying the price for USCIS's fault.
This is really wonderful.
USCIS should be screwing people who used Substitute labor. They should even revoke or issue RFEs to all peoples who got Greencard using Substitute labor. I am sure the queue is get very very short if this happens. let us not allow these people who jumped in this queue.
I am writing to USCIS about this. Let us all write to USCIS, Ombudsman and also on USCIS blog about this.
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indianabacklog
11-10 04:04 PM
You can volunteer in a role that is always undertaken by individuals who are volunteers, such as in a hospital setting. In reality if you are volunteering for a for profit they are really getting unpaid assistance which technically should be done by an employee.
If you go serve dinners at a homeless mission or work as a hospital volunteer for example then you are just fine.
I do have this information from a lawyer incidentally as this question arose in our family.
If you go serve dinners at a homeless mission or work as a hospital volunteer for example then you are just fine.
I do have this information from a lawyer incidentally as this question arose in our family.
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Berkeleybee
04-03 04:36 PM
brb2, Thanks for pointing it out. Actually the figure of 15% makes our case stronger. We will have it changed.
Seeing as how I and Stuck labor were the ones to put that National Interest Fact sheet together thought I should respond:
The NAS report is available at http://fermat.nap.edu/catalog/11463.html
The document is quoting from page ES-8 of the NAS report -- I'm cutting and pasting from the document
"In Germany, 36% of undergraduates receive their degrees in science and engineering. In China, the
figure is 59%, and in Japan 66%. In the United States, the corresponding figure is 32%."
The NAS document end note says "Based on data from Data are from National Science Board. 2004. Science and Engineering Indicators 2004 (NSB 04-01). Arlington, VA: National Science Foundation, Appendix Table 2-33."
The document you have linked to says
In South Korea, 38% of all undergraduates receive their degrees in natural science or engineering. In France, the figure is 47%, in China, 50%, and in Singapore 67%. In the United States, the corresponding figure is 15%.27 In South Korea, 38% of all undergraduates receive their degrees in natural science or engineering. In France, the figure is 47%, in China, 50%, and in Singapore 67%. In the United States, the corresponding figure is 15%.
And the document footnote says
Analysis conducted by the Association of American Universities. 2006. National Defense Education and Innovation Initiative. Based on data in National Science Board. 2004. Science and Engineering Indicators 2004 (NSB 04-01). Arlington, VA: National Science Foundation. Appendix Table 2-33. For countries with both short and long degrees, the ratios are calculated with both short and long degrees as the numerator.
So this is pretty odd -- both are based on the same base dataset, and it looks like the second document calculates the % differently. Also not sure why one says "science and engineering" and the other says "natural science and engineering"
Seeing as how I and Stuck labor were the ones to put that National Interest Fact sheet together thought I should respond:
The NAS report is available at http://fermat.nap.edu/catalog/11463.html
The document is quoting from page ES-8 of the NAS report -- I'm cutting and pasting from the document
"In Germany, 36% of undergraduates receive their degrees in science and engineering. In China, the
figure is 59%, and in Japan 66%. In the United States, the corresponding figure is 32%."
The NAS document end note says "Based on data from Data are from National Science Board. 2004. Science and Engineering Indicators 2004 (NSB 04-01). Arlington, VA: National Science Foundation, Appendix Table 2-33."
The document you have linked to says
In South Korea, 38% of all undergraduates receive their degrees in natural science or engineering. In France, the figure is 47%, in China, 50%, and in Singapore 67%. In the United States, the corresponding figure is 15%.27 In South Korea, 38% of all undergraduates receive their degrees in natural science or engineering. In France, the figure is 47%, in China, 50%, and in Singapore 67%. In the United States, the corresponding figure is 15%.
And the document footnote says
Analysis conducted by the Association of American Universities. 2006. National Defense Education and Innovation Initiative. Based on data in National Science Board. 2004. Science and Engineering Indicators 2004 (NSB 04-01). Arlington, VA: National Science Foundation. Appendix Table 2-33. For countries with both short and long degrees, the ratios are calculated with both short and long degrees as the numerator.
So this is pretty odd -- both are based on the same base dataset, and it looks like the second document calculates the % differently. Also not sure why one says "science and engineering" and the other says "natural science and engineering"
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01-13 12:00 PM
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plz reply to my message
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naushit
02-12 08:36 AM
Chris,
My case was very similar in last November, I did call them many times...but same old answer. but in last month they told me they did not work on my case because my fiinger prints were expired. they expire every 15 months, and without valid FP , case even will not pass standard "filter" criteria, and they don't consider it "ready to approve"
Looks like you sent your 485 on Jul 2007, assume your first FP was done before Aug 2007? if yes, it's expired. By any chance, did you do your 2nd FP?
Just my 2 cents.!
Regards,
-N
Our cases are assigned to IO more that 60 days ago. No LUD's sofar.
Called VSC, One officer told me that they have thousands of cases pending. :confused:
Any one got GC recently and pending with IO more that 60 days ?
Appricaite comments and advice.
My case was very similar in last November, I did call them many times...but same old answer. but in last month they told me they did not work on my case because my fiinger prints were expired. they expire every 15 months, and without valid FP , case even will not pass standard "filter" criteria, and they don't consider it "ready to approve"
Looks like you sent your 485 on Jul 2007, assume your first FP was done before Aug 2007? if yes, it's expired. By any chance, did you do your 2nd FP?
Just my 2 cents.!
Regards,
-N
Our cases are assigned to IO more that 60 days ago. No LUD's sofar.
Called VSC, One officer told me that they have thousands of cases pending. :confused:
Any one got GC recently and pending with IO more that 60 days ?
Appricaite comments and advice.
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LostInGCProcess
11-17 03:40 PM
Hello Gurus,
If I get my AP approved before I leave then NO Issues, I will again use my AP to re-enter USA in Feb 2009.
But let's assume I don't get it Approved before I leave.
a) Am I allowed to travel outside USA while my AP is Pending ?
Yes, You can travel.
b) If allowed, Can my AP get approved while I am outside US (i.e in India) ? Or will they Cancel my AP application?
It is very unlikely they would cancel your AP
c) I know I should get my H1B Visa stamping done while in India to re-enter on H1B Status. Do you see any problems that the consular officer/POE officer can create like
why did I leave the country while my AP application is Pending ?
No, you are perfectly alright to get H1B visa.
Why are applying for H1B Visa while you could have used your AP?
No, In fact applying for H1B is the right thing to do. Since you want to maintain your H status.
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If I get my AP approved before I leave then NO Issues, I will again use my AP to re-enter USA in Feb 2009.
But let's assume I don't get it Approved before I leave.
a) Am I allowed to travel outside USA while my AP is Pending ?
Yes, You can travel.
b) If allowed, Can my AP get approved while I am outside US (i.e in India) ? Or will they Cancel my AP application?
It is very unlikely they would cancel your AP
c) I know I should get my H1B Visa stamping done while in India to re-enter on H1B Status. Do you see any problems that the consular officer/POE officer can create like
why did I leave the country while my AP application is Pending ?
No, you are perfectly alright to get H1B visa.
Why are applying for H1B Visa while you could have used your AP?
No, In fact applying for H1B is the right thing to do. Since you want to maintain your H status.
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illinois_alum
05-27 09:30 PM
I had e-filed for me and my wife on 05/14.
App went to NSC. Sent docs on 05/19 - delivered on 05/21
Soft LUD on 05/17, 05/18 and on 05/24
Got receipts on 05/21
Yesterday (05/25) got ASC notice for FP for my wife.. did not know that FP is needed for EAD.
I thought last time we got FP notice.. it said app type as I-485.. that time.. in July fiasco.. we had applied for 485/EAD/AP all together
Have not got my FP notice yet
I have a Que - my daughter is 7 and initially the attorney had applied for EAD for her too... but then after the first time (2007) I did not apply for her EAD.. I thought no point in wasting $340 every time..
Now since FP notices are coming for my wife and hopefully for me - how about FP notice for my daughter? Do I need to apply for EAD for her.. to get FP notice?
If I don't get FP notice for her - will her Case be ok?
I e-filed for my wife on 5/24 - application was submitted to NSC.
Sof LUDs on 5/25, 5/26 and 5/27
Sent documents on 5/25 - Received by NSC on 5/27
Received Receipt Notice on 5/27
Waiting for FP notice (last FP was ~2 years back at the time of last EAD renewal)
App went to NSC. Sent docs on 05/19 - delivered on 05/21
Soft LUD on 05/17, 05/18 and on 05/24
Got receipts on 05/21
Yesterday (05/25) got ASC notice for FP for my wife.. did not know that FP is needed for EAD.
I thought last time we got FP notice.. it said app type as I-485.. that time.. in July fiasco.. we had applied for 485/EAD/AP all together
Have not got my FP notice yet
I have a Que - my daughter is 7 and initially the attorney had applied for EAD for her too... but then after the first time (2007) I did not apply for her EAD.. I thought no point in wasting $340 every time..
Now since FP notices are coming for my wife and hopefully for me - how about FP notice for my daughter? Do I need to apply for EAD for her.. to get FP notice?
If I don't get FP notice for her - will her Case be ok?
I e-filed for my wife on 5/24 - application was submitted to NSC.
Sof LUDs on 5/25, 5/26 and 5/27
Sent documents on 5/25 - Received by NSC on 5/27
Received Receipt Notice on 5/27
Waiting for FP notice (last FP was ~2 years back at the time of last EAD renewal)
ItIsNotFunny
12-02 01:34 PM
Imagine if someone has a cancer and he goes to a doctor and doctor tries all kinds of medicines and it does not work. He does get some relief in the pain though. So do you think the patient should ask for refund for all the money spent?
Likewise broken immigration system needs to be fixed and everyone tried hard for one year. We did get some relief from our pain due to 2 year EAD and namechecks memo. But the cure/bill did not pass. So do you think it means we should ask for a refund? And do you think anyone will even talk to us in DC next time if we act so cheap for the $5s some of us paid.
Why dont you have the courage to ask your lawyer for a refund because you dont have a greencard yet. Can you do it? If not then I think it is irratational to even think about it?
You are right about doctor, patient... But I am not sure whether lobbyist did what they say they did. I am sure Core members are keeping track of their activities but zero output was quite disappointing. Some point of time it even makes me think that they were charging us for hours they spent in Starbucks.
Likewise broken immigration system needs to be fixed and everyone tried hard for one year. We did get some relief from our pain due to 2 year EAD and namechecks memo. But the cure/bill did not pass. So do you think it means we should ask for a refund? And do you think anyone will even talk to us in DC next time if we act so cheap for the $5s some of us paid.
Why dont you have the courage to ask your lawyer for a refund because you dont have a greencard yet. Can you do it? If not then I think it is irratational to even think about it?
You are right about doctor, patient... But I am not sure whether lobbyist did what they say they did. I am sure Core members are keeping track of their activities but zero output was quite disappointing. Some point of time it even makes me think that they were charging us for hours they spent in Starbucks.
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